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		<title>By: Menacham Mendel</title>
		<link>http://rabbibrant.com/2009/01/29/rabbis-and-the-third-rail/#comment-4307</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Menacham Mendel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 00:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rabbi Rosen,
I am deeply disturbed by this article.  I am no fan of the government of the State of Israel, and although on the surface, it may seem to you that you are trying to reach across the &#039;great divide,&#039; I feel that you have aligned yourself with the wrong side. 

Eight years of daily rocket fire against Israeli citizens weren&#039;t enough to merit a strong military response?  What other country would tolerate the continued violence for fear of world opinion?  

The bombings against Hamas were not Israel&#039;s first solution, either.  Israel called for a stop to the attacks repeatedly, threatened that their would be a response if they continued, and warned Gaza to evacuate civilians before firing a single missile.  And Israel, the world knows, does not bluff.

I mourn for the loss of life on both sides.  It is truly tragic.  Every life is a precious gidt from the Almighty.  But Hamas will not relent.  Surely you know that since the cease-fire, Hamas rockets have begun to fire into Israel again?  -Already?  What should Israel do, wait for a 9/11-scale event?

You should pray for Israel, pray for the Jewish people, and pray for peace.  But don&#039;t expect it to come knocking on your door carried by your enemies.

May we merit Moshiach and the rebuilding of our Bais Hamikdosh in Yerushalayim, bimhayrah v&#039;omeinu.

With sincere ahavas Yisrael and ahavas habrios,
Menacham Mendel]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rabbi Rosen,<br />
I am deeply disturbed by this article.  I am no fan of the government of the State of Israel, and although on the surface, it may seem to you that you are trying to reach across the &#8216;great divide,&#8217; I feel that you have aligned yourself with the wrong side. </p>
<p>Eight years of daily rocket fire against Israeli citizens weren&#8217;t enough to merit a strong military response?  What other country would tolerate the continued violence for fear of world opinion?  </p>
<p>The bombings against Hamas were not Israel&#8217;s first solution, either.  Israel called for a stop to the attacks repeatedly, threatened that their would be a response if they continued, and warned Gaza to evacuate civilians before firing a single missile.  And Israel, the world knows, does not bluff.</p>
<p>I mourn for the loss of life on both sides.  It is truly tragic.  Every life is a precious gidt from the Almighty.  But Hamas will not relent.  Surely you know that since the cease-fire, Hamas rockets have begun to fire into Israel again?  -Already?  What should Israel do, wait for a 9/11-scale event?</p>
<p>You should pray for Israel, pray for the Jewish people, and pray for peace.  But don&#8217;t expect it to come knocking on your door carried by your enemies.</p>
<p>May we merit Moshiach and the rebuilding of our Bais Hamikdosh in Yerushalayim, bimhayrah v&#8217;omeinu.</p>
<p>With sincere ahavas Yisrael and ahavas habrios,<br />
Menacham Mendel</p>
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		<title>By: Gil Franco</title>
		<link>http://rabbibrant.com/2009/01/29/rabbis-and-the-third-rail/#comment-4302</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gil Franco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 06:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We condemn the firing of missiles from Gaza that forced so many Israelis to live in fear and we mourn the loss of life that resullted from these attacks

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Too bad you didn&#039;t get around to condemning the firing of missles in the eight years before Israel finally acted to stop it.  Those of us who support a two-state solution from abroad and virtually all Israelis understand that Palestinians will never get a state if they continue to use territory that Israel evacuates for mindless aggression against it.    In the likely event that Rabbinical Statements don&#039;t stop Hamas from firing rockets and in light of your desire that Israel not act militarily to stop it,  I have to wonder whether you don&#039;t really oppose a two-state solution.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We condemn the firing of missiles from Gaza that forced so many Israelis to live in fear and we mourn the loss of life that resullted from these attacks</p>
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<p>Too bad you didn&#8217;t get around to condemning the firing of missles in the eight years before Israel finally acted to stop it.  Those of us who support a two-state solution from abroad and virtually all Israelis understand that Palestinians will never get a state if they continue to use territory that Israel evacuates for mindless aggression against it.    In the likely event that Rabbinical Statements don&#8217;t stop Hamas from firing rockets and in light of your desire that Israel not act militarily to stop it,  I have to wonder whether you don&#8217;t really oppose a two-state solution.</p>
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		<title>By: Far From Zion &#187; Peace Activists</title>
		<link>http://rabbibrant.com/2009/01/29/rabbis-and-the-third-rail/#comment-4298</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Far From Zion &#187; Peace Activists]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 15:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] but not stopped. Calls for a nonviolent approach to the problem continue to float around, though a unified rabbinical response has faltered, due largely, as Rabbi Brant Rosen notes on his blog, to the &#8220;third rail&#8221; in American [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] but not stopped. Calls for a nonviolent approach to the problem continue to float around, though a unified rabbinical response has faltered, due largely, as Rabbi Brant Rosen notes on his blog, to the &#8220;third rail&#8221; in American [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan B-K</title>
		<link>http://rabbibrant.com/2009/01/29/rabbis-and-the-third-rail/#comment-4294</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonathan B-K]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 00:32:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yasher koach, Brant!  I would have signed on to your statement had I had the chance.  My parents just sent a copy of the pre-maturely released statement that one of my mother&#039;s Smith College classmates now living in Germany sent her, that she had picked up from a link from the Montreal Muslim News.  It&#039;s still great to see that you and other rabbis are out there articulating publicly (e.g., your blog, the Brit Tzedek open letter to Obama, not to mention the non-rabbinical editorial writers of Haaretz - Gideon Levy is one of my new heroes ) what many of us committed, conflicted, yes, even Zionist Jews feel. And the &quot;third rail&quot; is an apt metaphor for where you sit when we move the private conversations expressing the moral outrage we feel to a public forum.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yasher koach, Brant!  I would have signed on to your statement had I had the chance.  My parents just sent a copy of the pre-maturely released statement that one of my mother&#8217;s Smith College classmates now living in Germany sent her, that she had picked up from a link from the Montreal Muslim News.  It&#8217;s still great to see that you and other rabbis are out there articulating publicly (e.g., your blog, the Brit Tzedek open letter to Obama, not to mention the non-rabbinical editorial writers of Haaretz &#8211; Gideon Levy is one of my new heroes ) what many of us committed, conflicted, yes, even Zionist Jews feel. And the &#8220;third rail&#8221; is an apt metaphor for where you sit when we move the private conversations expressing the moral outrage we feel to a public forum.</p>
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		<title>By: MargeFrank</title>
		<link>http://rabbibrant.com/2009/01/29/rabbis-and-the-third-rail/#comment-4292</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MargeFrank]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 22:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perhaps we need to wait and see what the new administration&#039;s diplomatic approach to Israel will be before inserting the word &quot;assertive&quot; or threatening to withhold aid.  After all, they&#039;ve only been in office for one week, and it seems to me that the President&#039;s reaching out to the Arab world, and appointing George Mitchell to the region are first positive steps.  Why now, at this new hopeful beginning, should the rabbinical statement be so aggressive?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps we need to wait and see what the new administration&#8217;s diplomatic approach to Israel will be before inserting the word &#8220;assertive&#8221; or threatening to withhold aid.  After all, they&#8217;ve only been in office for one week, and it seems to me that the President&#8217;s reaching out to the Arab world, and appointing George Mitchell to the region are first positive steps.  Why now, at this new hopeful beginning, should the rabbinical statement be so aggressive?</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Bauer</title>
		<link>http://rabbibrant.com/2009/01/29/rabbis-and-the-third-rail/#comment-4289</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thomas Bauer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[dear Rabbi,

What do you mean with &quot;Having nothing better to do,&quot;  ? This was, this is important, what could you do better than to work to protect innocent people?? 

Israel was - many years ago - a reference for me: a democratic society surrounded by Arab countries who mostly are not democratic (to phrase it politely). But in the course of the past 25 years or so i have seen Israel slipping towards a militaristic country, a country where Jewish lives are higher valued than non-Jewish lives.  

Please, understand me right: the rockets fired on Sderot and other places are pure terrorism, and justify a response. But  Palestinian children and Palestinian people are also created by G*D, and are protected by the word in the Decalogue (not to speak of the 4th Geneva Convention).

Please, Rabbi, I do not think that your efforts, your thoughts about these wasted lives are worthless! Peace can only come to Israel if Jews and Muslims accept that they must live together, that they respect each other, and give each other the chance of living in dignity. Your voice must not be silenced, and i hope that other Rabbis will see that what you are doing is important. 

I hope with all my force that Peace will come, that Arabs and Israelis, that Muslims and Jews will live together and respect each others right to live, even if they don&#039;t *love* each other. This implies the respect of innocent lives - please do all what you can to defend this view of a better world! I know, it requires a lot of courage to do so, and i am sure that many people will support you even when they don&#039;t speak out.

Thomas]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dear Rabbi,</p>
<p>What do you mean with &#8220;Having nothing better to do,&#8221;  ? This was, this is important, what could you do better than to work to protect innocent people?? </p>
<p>Israel was &#8211; many years ago &#8211; a reference for me: a democratic society surrounded by Arab countries who mostly are not democratic (to phrase it politely). But in the course of the past 25 years or so i have seen Israel slipping towards a militaristic country, a country where Jewish lives are higher valued than non-Jewish lives.  </p>
<p>Please, understand me right: the rockets fired on Sderot and other places are pure terrorism, and justify a response. But  Palestinian children and Palestinian people are also created by G*D, and are protected by the word in the Decalogue (not to speak of the 4th Geneva Convention).</p>
<p>Please, Rabbi, I do not think that your efforts, your thoughts about these wasted lives are worthless! Peace can only come to Israel if Jews and Muslims accept that they must live together, that they respect each other, and give each other the chance of living in dignity. Your voice must not be silenced, and i hope that other Rabbis will see that what you are doing is important. </p>
<p>I hope with all my force that Peace will come, that Arabs and Israelis, that Muslims and Jews will live together and respect each others right to live, even if they don&#8217;t *love* each other. This implies the respect of innocent lives &#8211; please do all what you can to defend this view of a better world! I know, it requires a lot of courage to do so, and i am sure that many people will support you even when they don&#8217;t speak out.</p>
<p>Thomas</p>
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		<title>By: myles</title>
		<link>http://rabbibrant.com/2009/01/29/rabbis-and-the-third-rail/#comment-4287</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[myles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i was eagerly awaiting this, so i&#039;m quite sorry it couldn&#039;t come to fruition. how frustrating! i hope some good comes of that process/exchange/discussion, at the very least...  and thank you for spearheading it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i was eagerly awaiting this, so i&#8217;m quite sorry it couldn&#8217;t come to fruition. how frustrating! i hope some good comes of that process/exchange/discussion, at the very least&#8230;  and thank you for spearheading it.</p>
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