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		<title>By: Lisa Kosowski</title>
		<link>http://rabbibrant.com/2010/02/06/rosenberg-bds-may-be-inevitable/#comment-6296</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lisa Kosowski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 22:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another liberal Zionist, Haaretz journalist Bradley Burston, seems to be going through a similar &quot;awakening&quot; since last year&#039;s assault on Gaza.  His most recent editorial reveals that he has reached the point of a full-on crisis of conscience.  
  
Here are 2 links - the first, to the original article and the second is to Richard Silverstein&#039;s analysis of same:

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1150799.html

http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2010/02/20/haaretzs-burston-pain-of-the-liberal-zionist/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another liberal Zionist, Haaretz journalist Bradley Burston, seems to be going through a similar &#8220;awakening&#8221; since last year&#8217;s assault on Gaza.  His most recent editorial reveals that he has reached the point of a full-on crisis of conscience.  </p>
<p>Here are 2 links &#8211; the first, to the original article and the second is to Richard Silverstein&#8217;s analysis of same:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1150799.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1150799.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2010/02/20/haaretzs-burston-pain-of-the-liberal-zionist/" rel="nofollow">http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2010/02/20/haaretzs-burston-pain-of-the-liberal-zionist/</a></p>
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		<title>By: B.BarNavi</title>
		<link>http://rabbibrant.com/2010/02/06/rosenberg-bds-may-be-inevitable/#comment-6214</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[B.BarNavi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 05:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Most people in the non-Islamic world couldn’t care less about the Arab/Israeli conflict. That’s why there will never be BDS. This is because most people realize that the reason there isn’t peace is because the Arabs refuse to make peace on terms even the most flexible Israeli government could make, mainly, but not only because of the Palestinian demand for the “Right of Return”.&quot;

Wait - if they were so apathetic, how would they &quot;know&quot; this?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Most people in the non-Islamic world couldn’t care less about the Arab/Israeli conflict. That’s why there will never be BDS. This is because most people realize that the reason there isn’t peace is because the Arabs refuse to make peace on terms even the most flexible Israeli government could make, mainly, but not only because of the Palestinian demand for the “Right of Return”.&#8221;</p>
<p>Wait &#8211; if they were so apathetic, how would they &#8220;know&#8221; this?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://rabbibrant.com/2010/02/06/rosenberg-bds-may-be-inevitable/#comment-6191</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 06:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s your &#039;burgeoning&#039; BDS movement&#039;s effects over the past year:

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=EIS&amp;t=1y

If it gets any more burgeoning Israel may start giving aid to the US.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s your &#8216;burgeoning&#8217; BDS movement&#8217;s effects over the past year:</p>
<p><a href="http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=EIS&#038;t=1y" rel="nofollow">http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=EIS&#038;t=1y</a></p>
<p>If it gets any more burgeoning Israel may start giving aid to the US.</p>
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		<title>By: Rabbi David Mivasair</title>
		<link>http://rabbibrant.com/2010/02/06/rosenberg-bds-may-be-inevitable/#comment-6190</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rabbi David Mivasair]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 05:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brant, thank you for reporting on this.  -- David]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brant, thank you for reporting on this.  &#8212; David</p>
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		<title>By: YBD</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 05:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Most people in the non-Islamic world couldn&#039;t care less about the Arab/Israeli conflict. That&#039;s why there will never be BDS. This is because most people realize that the reason there isn&#039;t peace is because the Arabs refuse to make peace on terms even the most flexible Israeli government could make, mainly, but not only because of the Palestinian demand for the &quot;Right of Return&quot;.
There are many conflicts in the world that cause human rights problems far worse than that in the Arab-Israel conflict. Yet most people, including Jewish &quot;progressives&quot; don&#039;t express any interest in them. Why? Because most people don&#039;t have the time or energy to get involved. That is natural.  Jewish &quot;progressives&quot;, out of feelings of guilt, or fear of Muslim retaliation against Jewish targets (MJ Rosenberg&#039;s big post 9/11 fear) think that the Arab-Israeli conflict is the number one problem affecting the world, but few people, particularly in the West or Far East look at it that way...they see it as yet another intractable problem that can&#039;t be solved. 
True, there are small but noisy groups in the West of Muslim radicals, allied with anarchists, Communists, anti-globalish activist and radical Jews who are screaming for BDS but the vast majority of the populations in these countries DON&#039;T CARE one way or the other. While it is true an activist minority can manage to get a government or other bodies like trade unions to go along with their radical agenda since the rest of the membership or population is apathetic, they can get things like BDS discussed. However, if Israel and pro-Israel elements form an articulate counterforce to these groups in these countries, they can block these negative things from happening, because BDS does not really have any significant public support in these countries. Thus, I am not worried about MJ&#039;s doomsday scenarios.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most people in the non-Islamic world couldn&#8217;t care less about the Arab/Israeli conflict. That&#8217;s why there will never be BDS. This is because most people realize that the reason there isn&#8217;t peace is because the Arabs refuse to make peace on terms even the most flexible Israeli government could make, mainly, but not only because of the Palestinian demand for the &#8220;Right of Return&#8221;.<br />
There are many conflicts in the world that cause human rights problems far worse than that in the Arab-Israel conflict. Yet most people, including Jewish &#8220;progressives&#8221; don&#8217;t express any interest in them. Why? Because most people don&#8217;t have the time or energy to get involved. That is natural.  Jewish &#8220;progressives&#8221;, out of feelings of guilt, or fear of Muslim retaliation against Jewish targets (MJ Rosenberg&#8217;s big post 9/11 fear) think that the Arab-Israeli conflict is the number one problem affecting the world, but few people, particularly in the West or Far East look at it that way&#8230;they see it as yet another intractable problem that can&#8217;t be solved.<br />
True, there are small but noisy groups in the West of Muslim radicals, allied with anarchists, Communists, anti-globalish activist and radical Jews who are screaming for BDS but the vast majority of the populations in these countries DON&#8217;T CARE one way or the other. While it is true an activist minority can manage to get a government or other bodies like trade unions to go along with their radical agenda since the rest of the membership or population is apathetic, they can get things like BDS discussed. However, if Israel and pro-Israel elements form an articulate counterforce to these groups in these countries, they can block these negative things from happening, because BDS does not really have any significant public support in these countries. Thus, I am not worried about MJ&#8217;s doomsday scenarios.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Braverman</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Braverman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 02:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is indeed a significant development, Brant. Thanks for bringing it to our attention.

The next milestone is when &quot;progressive&quot; Zionists like MJ let go of their distaste for the idea of BDS.  When they stop talking about it like it is some unfortunate development.  It&#039;s not.  It&#039;s about the most wonderful thing that could happen to the citizens of Israel, held captive to a soul-killing racism and to the fate of living within the prison of their own walls, of bringing up their children under Apartheid.  It&#039;s a really good thing to have happen to American Jews, who need to be jolted out of their ignorance, complacency, self-satisfied moral superiority, and sense of privileged victimhood (check any that apply).  It&#039;s a unifying, mobilizing, and wonderfully morally clarifying thing to happen to Americans who are not Jewish, particularly Christians, who are puzzled, confused or horrified (which they are if they&#039;ve been over and seen what there is to see) by what Israel is doing and is being allowed to get away with, and are - if they know the facts - outraged that this is being paid for by their taxes.

AS IF it were Apartheid South Africa, MJ?  Why is Israel so special?  Why can&#039;t it sin like other nations?  If it looks like one and quacks like a duck, it is a duck.  Or worse.  Let the movement flourish and grow.  Negotiations are precisely what the Palestinians see it to be, just as you say.  That&#039;s over.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is indeed a significant development, Brant. Thanks for bringing it to our attention.</p>
<p>The next milestone is when &#8220;progressive&#8221; Zionists like MJ let go of their distaste for the idea of BDS.  When they stop talking about it like it is some unfortunate development.  It&#8217;s not.  It&#8217;s about the most wonderful thing that could happen to the citizens of Israel, held captive to a soul-killing racism and to the fate of living within the prison of their own walls, of bringing up their children under Apartheid.  It&#8217;s a really good thing to have happen to American Jews, who need to be jolted out of their ignorance, complacency, self-satisfied moral superiority, and sense of privileged victimhood (check any that apply).  It&#8217;s a unifying, mobilizing, and wonderfully morally clarifying thing to happen to Americans who are not Jewish, particularly Christians, who are puzzled, confused or horrified (which they are if they&#8217;ve been over and seen what there is to see) by what Israel is doing and is being allowed to get away with, and are &#8211; if they know the facts &#8211; outraged that this is being paid for by their taxes.</p>
<p>AS IF it were Apartheid South Africa, MJ?  Why is Israel so special?  Why can&#8217;t it sin like other nations?  If it looks like one and quacks like a duck, it is a duck.  Or worse.  Let the movement flourish and grow.  Negotiations are precisely what the Palestinians see it to be, just as you say.  That&#8217;s over.</p>
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