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	<title>Comments for Shalom Rav</title>
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		<title>Comment on Biblical Myths, Cultural Boundaries and Political Realities: Rachel Havrelock&#8217;s Important New Book by Richard Kahn</title>
		<link>http://rabbibrant.com/2012/02/08/biblical-myths-cultural-boundaries-and-political-realities-rachel-havrelocks-important-new-book/#comment-12657</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Kahn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 14:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have to agree with Dave. I&#039;ll clearly need to read the book myself, but using Joshua to promote coexistence doesn&#039;t pass the reasonableness test.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with Dave. I&#8217;ll clearly need to read the book myself, but using Joshua to promote coexistence doesn&#8217;t pass the reasonableness test.</p>
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		<title>Comment on New Report on Israel&#8217;s Abuse of Palestinian Children by Ken Kaufman</title>
		<link>http://rabbibrant.com/2012/01/24/new-report-on-israels-abuse-of-palestinian-children/#comment-12650</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ken Kaufman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 07:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would think it would be of interest to read the entire Israeli response:  http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/feb/02/israel-not-mistreat-palestinian-children
Amir Ofek;  The Guardian, Wednesday 1 February 2012.
&quot;Israel Does Not Mistreat Detained Palestinian Children.
Palestinian minors have committed atrocities – but Israel&#039;s military justice system respects their rights in custody.&quot;  

Here is a part of the article:
Gerard Horton, of Defence for Children International, tells your reporter: &quot;We&#039;re not saying offences aren&#039;t committed – we&#039;re saying children have legal rights.&quot; Israel is in complete agreement. In the face of ever younger minors committing ever greater numbers of crimes, its efforts to maintain and even increase legal protections are impressive. When a minor involved in terrorist activity is arrested, the law is clear: no torture or humiliation is permitted, nor is solitary confinement in order to induce a confession – which challenges the veracity of the accounts in your article.

Furthermore, a special juvenile court has been established to guarantee professional care for minors in detention. The above and other measures have succeeded in making legal proceedings easier for minors, and have almost halved their duration.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would think it would be of interest to read the entire Israeli response:  <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/feb/02/israel-not-mistreat-palestinian-children" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/feb/02/israel-not-mistreat-palestinian-children</a><br />
Amir Ofek;  The Guardian, Wednesday 1 February 2012.<br />
&#8220;Israel Does Not Mistreat Detained Palestinian Children.<br />
Palestinian minors have committed atrocities – but Israel&#8217;s military justice system respects their rights in custody.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Here is a part of the article:<br />
Gerard Horton, of Defence for Children International, tells your reporter: &#8220;We&#8217;re not saying offences aren&#8217;t committed – we&#8217;re saying children have legal rights.&#8221; Israel is in complete agreement. In the face of ever younger minors committing ever greater numbers of crimes, its efforts to maintain and even increase legal protections are impressive. When a minor involved in terrorist activity is arrested, the law is clear: no torture or humiliation is permitted, nor is solitary confinement in order to induce a confession – which challenges the veracity of the accounts in your article.</p>
<p>Furthermore, a special juvenile court has been established to guarantee professional care for minors in detention. The above and other measures have succeeded in making legal proceedings easier for minors, and have almost halved their duration.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Biblical Myths, Cultural Boundaries and Political Realities: Rachel Havrelock&#8217;s Important New Book by Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 02:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A nice bit of parsing.

The passage in full goes, &quot;And as for the Jebusites, the children of Judah could not drive them out; but the Jebusites dwelt with the children of Judah at Jerusalem, unto this day.&quot;

Not quite the pacific situation she describes.  Nor is the existence of the Jebusites in Jerusalem, as described, the way it should be or the way it will be.  

And last I checked, yup, I thought so.  Nobody calling themselves Jebusites in Jerusalem today.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A nice bit of parsing.</p>
<p>The passage in full goes, &#8220;And as for the Jebusites, the children of Judah could not drive them out; but the Jebusites dwelt with the children of Judah at Jerusalem, unto this day.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not quite the pacific situation she describes.  Nor is the existence of the Jebusites in Jerusalem, as described, the way it should be or the way it will be.  </p>
<p>And last I checked, yup, I thought so.  Nobody calling themselves Jebusites in Jerusalem today.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Rais Bhuiyan and the Power of Forgiveness by jlseagull</title>
		<link>http://rabbibrant.com/2011/07/11/rais-bhuiyan-and-the-power-of-forgiveness/#comment-12643</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jlseagull]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 04:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I recently discovered this story and was blown away again by the power of forgiveness and what can happen people reach out to each other in love. Thank you for your wonderful work!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently discovered this story and was blown away again by the power of forgiveness and what can happen people reach out to each other in love. Thank you for your wonderful work!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Moment of Truth for Liberal Zionism by pabelmont</title>
		<link>http://rabbibrant.com/2012/02/01/moment-of-truth-for-liberal-zionism/#comment-12640</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pabelmont]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 18:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The trope or meme of &quot;window of opportunity closing on 2SS&quot; is not accurate from any reasonable viewpoint. If the viewpoint taken is that of Israeli politics, then 2SS has been dead for many years, &quot;Oslo&quot; was a trick to speed it to its demise. If, instead, the viewpoint is that of UN or EU politics, then all that is required is a SUFFICIENT impetus to break the EU and BRIC and others out of their lethargy far enough to insist (with sanctions as required) that Israel remove the wall and the settlers and the settlements buildings (I&#039;d imagine the Palestinians would not want them, but I could be wrong) and the siege on Gaza. That should breathe new life into 2SS particularly if Israel were given enough time (before sanctions became unbearable) to withdraw largely from West Bank/East Jerusalem and to bargain other exchanges with the Palestinians to save a few near-Jerusalem settlement blocks.

A war with Iraq might be the required impetus, the required &quot;cry for help&quot; from Israel which, as noted, cannot overcome its own internal politics to seek peace and evidently requires help.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The trope or meme of &#8220;window of opportunity closing on 2SS&#8221; is not accurate from any reasonable viewpoint. If the viewpoint taken is that of Israeli politics, then 2SS has been dead for many years, &#8220;Oslo&#8221; was a trick to speed it to its demise. If, instead, the viewpoint is that of UN or EU politics, then all that is required is a SUFFICIENT impetus to break the EU and BRIC and others out of their lethargy far enough to insist (with sanctions as required) that Israel remove the wall and the settlers and the settlements buildings (I&#8217;d imagine the Palestinians would not want them, but I could be wrong) and the siege on Gaza. That should breathe new life into 2SS particularly if Israel were given enough time (before sanctions became unbearable) to withdraw largely from West Bank/East Jerusalem and to bargain other exchanges with the Palestinians to save a few near-Jerusalem settlement blocks.</p>
<p>A war with Iraq might be the required impetus, the required &#8220;cry for help&#8221; from Israel which, as noted, cannot overcome its own internal politics to seek peace and evidently requires help.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Moment of Truth for Liberal Zionism by Jeffrey Silverman</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeffrey Silverman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 10:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://dfwatch.net/
Here is another site that is funded by NED, National Endowement for Democracy, Unfortunately there too has been an unfortunate Israel footprint in the military and domestic affairs of the country of Georgia, Israel drones sold to Israeli, technicians on the cluster bombs, and military advisors. Israel as a Jewish state should be a role model to Jewish values and not the opposite - and it is clear that Georgia is part of US plans for possible military action against Iran, an action that would destablize the entire region and threaten the security of Israel and the Jewish people.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://dfwatch.net/" rel="nofollow">http://dfwatch.net/</a><br />
Here is another site that is funded by NED, National Endowement for Democracy, Unfortunately there too has been an unfortunate Israel footprint in the military and domestic affairs of the country of Georgia, Israel drones sold to Israeli, technicians on the cluster bombs, and military advisors. Israel as a Jewish state should be a role model to Jewish values and not the opposite &#8211; and it is clear that Georgia is part of US plans for possible military action against Iran, an action that would destablize the entire region and threaten the security of Israel and the Jewish people.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Moment of Truth for Liberal Zionism by Seth Morrison</title>
		<link>http://rabbibrant.com/2012/02/01/moment-of-truth-for-liberal-zionism/#comment-12634</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Seth Morrison]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2012 16:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[WPearlman,

As you can see your remarks were not censored, which gives me the opportunity to reply.  Debate is healthy even when there is significant disagreement.

Those of us who believe strongly that Israel is a major part of the problem in the Middle East are still very concerned about security.  Too many Israelis and Palestinians have been innocent victims and we must ensure that any peace agreements include appropriate security.  However as General Petreaus testified before Congress a year or so ago the ongoing state of conflict is a major cause of terrorism.  Peace will enable both sides to focus on education, job creation and the positive change that eliminates terrorism.

I would also challenge you to explain how peace can be achieved without negotiations and an end to the occupation.  Do you want to see Israel become the apartheid ruler over the Palestinians? (I know some readers will say Israel is already there)   How could that possibly be viable?

While I do not totally agree with Brant&#039;s thesis -- I believe that a two-state solution is still possible -- I do believe that Israel has become an occupier, discriminates against Arab Israelis and must make significant changes to ensure peace.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WPearlman,</p>
<p>As you can see your remarks were not censored, which gives me the opportunity to reply.  Debate is healthy even when there is significant disagreement.</p>
<p>Those of us who believe strongly that Israel is a major part of the problem in the Middle East are still very concerned about security.  Too many Israelis and Palestinians have been innocent victims and we must ensure that any peace agreements include appropriate security.  However as General Petreaus testified before Congress a year or so ago the ongoing state of conflict is a major cause of terrorism.  Peace will enable both sides to focus on education, job creation and the positive change that eliminates terrorism.</p>
<p>I would also challenge you to explain how peace can be achieved without negotiations and an end to the occupation.  Do you want to see Israel become the apartheid ruler over the Palestinians? (I know some readers will say Israel is already there)   How could that possibly be viable?</p>
<p>While I do not totally agree with Brant&#8217;s thesis &#8212; I believe that a two-state solution is still possible &#8212; I do believe that Israel has become an occupier, discriminates against Arab Israelis and must make significant changes to ensure peace.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Moment of Truth for Liberal Zionism by umrayya</title>
		<link>http://rabbibrant.com/2012/02/01/moment-of-truth-for-liberal-zionism/#comment-12633</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[umrayya]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2012 09:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oooops! Looks like &quot;the Rosen&quot; slipped up and hit the &quot;post&quot; button instead of the &quot;censor&quot; button. Bummer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oooops! Looks like &#8220;the Rosen&#8221; slipped up and hit the &#8220;post&#8221; button instead of the &#8220;censor&#8221; button. Bummer.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Moment of Truth for Liberal Zionism by WPearlman@aol.com</title>
		<link>http://rabbibrant.com/2012/02/01/moment-of-truth-for-liberal-zionism/#comment-12627</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[WPearlman@aol.com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 23:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sure John, who wouldn&#039;t want to live next to an Egyptian soccer fan. Or those happy go lucky lads from hamas and hezbollah Don&#039;t expect this to get posted. Pro-Palestinian Jews like the Rosen are the worst censors.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure John, who wouldn&#8217;t want to live next to an Egyptian soccer fan. Or those happy go lucky lads from hamas and hezbollah Don&#8217;t expect this to get posted. Pro-Palestinian Jews like the Rosen are the worst censors.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is BDS anti-Semitism? by Why I support the Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions movement &#171; Free Yet in Chains</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Why I support the Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions movement &#171; Free Yet in Chains]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 20:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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